[OPF List] What if the SHTF?

Gary Hunt hunt at outpost-of-freedom.com
Thu Aug 19 10:40:29 HST 2010


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From: opf-bounces at oneamericanpatriot.com
[mailto:opf-bounces at oneamericanpatriot.com] On Behalf Of Dusty
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 12:19 PM
To: 'Outpost Of Freedom'
Subject: Re: [OPF List] What if the SHTF?

 

G'day Gary & all;

 

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From: opf-bounces at oneamericanpatriot.com
[mailto:opf-bounces at oneamericanpatriot.com] On Behalf Of Gary Hunt
Sent: Thursday, 19 August, 2010 11:21
To: 'Outpost Of Freedom'
Subject: Re: [OPF List] What if the SHTF?

 

So, you would prefer to mock them than get the point of the message

I do not mock them.  I simply do not revere them as patriots of their
country any more than I revere Timothy McVeigh as a patriot of this
country.  The point of the message is, that is has no point.  They are
fighting for the right to impose their draconian, authoritarian
political/religious views on those unable to defend themselves from
their advances.  And to do so, they're fighting against those that seek
only to give their people the freedom that you would want for yourself
and your family.  I guess that makes you simpatico with their ends, and
you are of course welcome to be so.  I am not.  Nor will I ever be so.

[gh] You seem to have an obsession with McVeigh. You brought him into
the conversation, and, unassisted, have managed to make him focal to the
discussion.

The point of the message, to you, may be [pointless. After all, you say
that we are in Afghanistan to bring people freedom. Well, it started out
that we were going to get bin Laden. Then, we wanted to get rid of the
government that would not turn him over to us, even though we had no
extradition treaty with them. Since then, we have destroyed, and are
rebuilding, at considerable expense, much of their infrastructure. We
have placed a government of our choosing in their country and have to
prop it up, and, as you allude to, we are jamming "freedom" down their
throats, even if we have to kill them to do so.

I will say that I am sympathetic (not simpatico, that is Spanish --
press 2)with their plight, and the point is that if we were forced to
accept a government not chosen by us, we would, I hope, resist with the
courage that they demonstrate.

 

 -- they are fighting for their country, in their country. 

Actually, they're fighting for the right to keep, impose, and spread
their vile 7th century ideology of hate and misogyny upon their own
people as well as us and the rest of the world.  It's probably just me,
but I don't see that as something to aspire to.

[gh] Right, well I missed the point that the Afghani citizens were
invading other countries to "spread their vile 7th century ideology". I
thought it was us spreading our ideology on them. Maybe you can explain
which is correct, and, why so.

 

Whatever other slanders you have for them, they are doing what we claim
that we would do, if we were in their situation.

I don't think so.  It's not in my nature to want to impose a vile
religious scheme upon my neighbors as if it were a deity given
commandment to be accomplished.  Whatever other glowing accolades you
have for them and their willingness to impose their own form of slavery
upon their people, I claim nothing of that nor would I do that in any
situation.  I leave that all to you and your tender mercies.

[gh] Okay, you said it, again. Show me how these people who have to walk
to where they go are spreading their "vile religious scheme". Are they
doing via mil? Perhaps their bullets travel further. Don't confuse
issues and paint everybody in Afghanistan with the same broad brush,
unless, of course, you can show that the broad brush applies to all.

 

Detraction from that point will not change the nature of the similarity
of concern for your own country.

Indeed!  Nor will your constant, aggrieved need to present their "right"
to impose their adopted, draconian religion/political system on their
fellow citizens ever become a similarity of any kind when it regards my
concerns for my own country.  I would fight to implement freedom and
liberty for myself, my family and my fellow citizens.  Instead, you
would have me fight to impose a vile, authoritarian religious system
upon myself and my family in your stead.  I hope you'll forgive me if
that's not in the cards for me.

[gh] My object in this country is that others (say Republicans and
Democrats) have imposed their "draconian religious/political system" on
us, contrary to the Constitution. Perhaps you can address whether I am
in error on that point.

 

L8r all,

Dusty

Gary

 

From: opf-bounces at oneamericanpatriot.com
[mailto:opf-bounces at oneamericanpatriot.com] On Behalf Of Dusty
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 11:01 AM
To: 'Outpost Of Freedom'
Subject: Re: [OPF List] What if the SHTF?

 

G'day Gary & all;

 

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From: opf-bounces at oneamericanpatriot.com
[mailto:opf-bounces at oneamericanpatriot.com] On Behalf Of Gary Hunt
Sent: Wednesday, 18 August, 2010 23:41
To: 'Outpost Of Freedom'
Subject: Re: [OPF List] What if the SHTF?

 

Interesting how those "shithole" "camel drivers"  that are so out of
their league have managed to keep us at war for so long (9 years). 

"They" have not kept us a 'war' all these years.  The political
ineptitude and need to be PC has kept us there.  It would be a lot
harder to do what they're doing if the place was either glassed over or
consisted of a 100 foot top-layer of rubble.  We're playing around over
there for political goals I simply can't seem to grasp.  Case in point;
a small portion of the worlds 5th largest military (ours) wiped out the
entire body of the worlds 3rd largest military (Saddam's) in a couple of
weeks.  If we wanted to, even more pain and suffering could have been
brought to bear.  And that's the key phrase:  If we wanted to.

Especially considering that they must have nearly run out of shithole
camel drivers fighting the Russians.

They breed like maggots.  And, since their females are their personal
slaves, they have an inexhaustible supply of maggots.

I think the point that I was trying to make is that they are as willing
to fight foreigners on their soil as I hope we would be.

There's 'fighting' and there's "fighting".  While they certainly have a
level of tenacity-not often found in most Americans, on their side, they
don't have any real "fighting" skills.no more, say, than your average
Mexican drug runner or barrio bully.  Sadly, we don't need to wait for
foreigners to arrive, we already have more than enough Marxists and
other socialist vermin to fight.and I fear that that fight will be
harder and bloodier than any foreign invader could bring to us.

 

L8r all,

Dusty

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