[OPF List] Bundy Ranch - false alarm

Gary Hunt hunt at outpost-of-freedom.com
Wed Apr 16 02:10:58 KST 2014


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Gary Hunt
Outpost of Freedom


-----Original Message-----
From: opf-bounces at oneamericanpatriot.com
[mailto:opf-bounces at oneamericanpatriot.com] On Behalf Of 11thcav
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 10:01 AM
To: Outpost of Freedom
Subject: Re: [OPF List] Bundy Ranch - false alarm

There is so much I could comment on concerning this very subject (WOA) but
for now will keep it to my self.

On 4/15/2014 9:48 AM, Gary Hunt wrote:
> Freebyrd seemed to distance himself from this early on. 
> I'll talk with him about it when I have time between chores and 
> dealing with the sensationalism that is so rampant.
> 
> Gary Hunt
> Outpost of Freedom
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: opf-bounces at oneamericanpatriot.com
> [mailto:opf-bounces at oneamericanpatriot.com] On Behalf Of 11thcav
> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 9:42 AM
> To: Outpost of Freedom
> Subject: Re: [OPF List] Bundy Ranch - false alarm
> 
> (Sarcasm ALERT)
>  Just went to the WOA alert page nothing, not even an honorable 
> mention about this event. Went to the PRN radio page and there claim is
the "truth"
> will be discussed on the Moretti Radio show tonight. They did say the 
> "truth".. That is all !  ( sarcastic grin)
> 
> On 4/15/2014 9:16 AM,  Elizabeth Sutton wrote:
>> That BLM a la Harry Reid is not done yet...is not a "rumor."  That 
>> people
> picked up live alerts from the FACEBOOK page Bundy  Ranch is using, 
> re-posted them in an effort to get the word out...is not..."rumor."  
> and not "guess what I know...want to hear....secret source"  stuff.
>>
>> People are taking the lead from operators on the ground.  If you want
> better, more factual, accurate information out there...get better 
> operators on the ground.
>>
>>
>> There is plenty of what you are talking about out there...but guess what?
> The BLM document that backs up that confidential source information is 
> now also out there...thanks to folks being alerted to secret stuff going
on...
>>
>> Now...have it your way...you simply disregard everything not 
>> generated by
> you...and OMA disregards anything not generated by them, via the Bundy 
> Ranch...according to statements made by OMA spokesperson who sent out 
> a call for additional militia onsite after the festivities had 
> concluded...but be aware that folks from AOs all over the place are 
> digging for information...and they will and have obtained quite a bit.
>>
>> What you are doing is admirable...but the environment is 
>> hyper-aware...and
> someone needs to acknowledge that a better job can and should be done 
> by those who have command authority.
>>
>> It is just that simple...
>> On Tuesday, April 15, 2014 10:51 AM, Gary Hunt
> <hunt at outpost-of-freedom.com> wrote:
>>   
>> I am not whining when I try to get the truth out and dispel rumors.
> However, those that think that I am whining probably just don't like 
> what I say as much as they like what they say that I am whining about.
>> I had two people that were going to try and get me an invitation to 
>> the
> Ranch for the very role that you speak of. Absent the invitation, IO 
> can only do what I can from where I am.
>> So, let me revisit the last round:
>> Since when does passing on something that someone else wrote 
>> constitute
> news? Especially, without verification of pertinent facts? News should 
> be investigated, not parroted.
>> Finally, though I can't verify it, I believe that what was passed on
> through the mouths of the parrots is based upon the "500 DHS agents n 
> the way to Nevada...." post that was so popular (guess what I know -- 
> just what I wanted to hear) a few days ago. That, however, can be 
> verified because -- hold on now -- it came from a secret source.
>>  
>>  
>> Gary Hunt
>> Outpost of Freedom
>>  
>> From:opf-bounces at oneamericanpatriot.com
>> [mailto:opf-bounces at oneamericanpatriot.com] On Behalf Of Elizabeth 
>> Sutton
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 8:19 AM
>> To: Outpost of Freedom
>> Subject: Re: [OPF List] Bundy Ranch - false alarm
>>  
>> I think you are helping them and I think someone needs to help them 
>> more,
> by pointing out the environment by which their asses were covered and 
> that environment is monitoring the situation in a state of 
> hyper-awareness, so that those who were reached using that same damn 
> environment is ready willing able to save their asses again...and
again...and again...apparently.
>>  
>> So, old dogs with a sense of both worlds, needs to point out that 
>> daily
> briefings in any form whatsoever, which bear that Golden Seal of 
> Official Approval From Bundy Ranch, should be considered.
>>  
>> And intel information flow sucks...in its current form.  Someone 
>> needs to
> point out that lessons are being taken from all this...and the tactics 
> of feral.gov need exposure....how  many were there...are any still 
> there...who's on point here?  What was done, and did anyone whatsoever 
> think to pick up documents left behind by retreating feral.gov employees?
>>  
>> See WRSA blog entry from Sispey Street Irregulars for more 
>> info...sorry I
> can't link it from here...
>>  
>> I have sent you several things this am...some are quite good...and 
>> they
> are all related...
>>  
>> I am not finding fault...I am seeing the need for specific 
>> improvement and
> anyone who complains without offering solutions is  just whining...and 
> I while I may and can be a World Class Bitch...I am not a whiney bitch.
>> On Tuesday, April 15, 2014 10:01 AM, Gary Hunt
> <hunt at outpost-of-freedom.com> wrote:
>> So, you think that I am not helping them by doing as they asked, 
>> trying to
> dispel rumors.
>> They have their hands full. I did try to get an invitation, which is 
>> how I
> have worked stories in the past. At present, I only have communication 
> with them, which is limited access.
>> "Viewer Driven Environment" is a rather interesting phrase. I think, 
>> as I
> interpret it, is that it is based upon telling people what they want 
> to hear. Unfortunately, I have never accepted that as a  grounds for 
> responsible reporting.
>> Sensationalism has become the mainstay of the Twitter based news.  
>> I'm
> just to fucking old to learn new tricks, and, if I was younger, I 
> would still stick to the 5 W's and truth.
>>  
>> Gary Hunt
>> Outpost of Freedom
>>  
>> From:opf-bounces at oneamericanpatriot.com
>> [mailto:opf-bounces at oneamericanpatriot.com] On Behalf Of Elizabeth 
>> Sutton
>> Sent: Monday, April 14, 2014 9:55 PM
>> To: Outpost of Freedom
>> Subject: Re: [OPF List] Bundy Ranch - false alarm
>>  
>> Someone who meets with your approval should inventory the area for
> government assets...vehicles...booked hotel rooms...type, make and 
> model...take a head count estimate of how many...if any....are still 
> present but in the background...then...post any changes...the Bundy's  
> still have boots on the ground out there...and let certain other 
> people who meet with your approval disseminate that information on a
regular basis.
>>  
>> If they have command and control issues...and I think they 
>> do...especially
> intel command and control...precisely because they are on 
> FACEBOOK...someone else's FB to boot...they should... well... take
control.
>>  
>> How hard is that?
>>  
>> Ben Swann and GaryFranchi  are doing what they do.   Disseminating
> information in a viewer driven environment.
>>  
>> If you don't like the current players at the table...encourage the 
>> Bundy's
> to take control, and do it themselves.  Help them.  Stop bitching 
> cause people are paying real close attention...
>> On Monday, April 14, 2014 11:35 PM, Gary Hunt
> <hunt at outpost-of-freedom.com> wrote:
>>  
>> Unfortunately, Ben Swann and Gary Franchi are presenting the 
>> information
> with an implied degree of urgency.
>>  
>> Gary Hunt
>> Outpost of Freedom
>>  
>> From:opf-bounces at oneamericanpatriot.com
>> [mailto:opf-bounces at oneamericanpatriot.com] On Behalf Of Elizabeth 
>> Sutton
>> Sent: Monday, April 14, 2014 9:32 PM
>> To: Outpost of Freedom
>> Subject: Re: [OPF List] Bundy Ranch - false alarm
>>  
>> No...but I don't think that happened, did it?  What you seem to be
> concerned  about is that people will hear this and over react.  
>>  
>> I would think that an estimated 500-800 folks who just got what  they 
>> came
> for without a shot fired are not over reactionary...and if it makes 
> you feel better, Sheriff Mack's comments were somewhat clarified in a 
> written WND article...but then...Senator Reid decided to weigh in...
>>  
>> so...
>>  
>> it may have been upsetting and unsettling that Mack reported what he 
>> had
> been told, but then, none other than Senator Harry Reid confirmed the 
> information...so can we just call this one done?
>> On Monday, April 14, 2014 11:21 PM, Gary Hunt
> <hunt at outpost-of-freedom.com> wrote:
>> You may call Reid's office. My point is that the Bundys don't want 
>> people
> to return to the Ranch, until they feel a need to have them return. 
>> Is Sheriff Mack the COMMANDER of this operation?
>> Let Mack provide some proof; or, wait it out and find out it is BS.
>> The call has to be with the Bundys. Would you want someone inviting 
>> people
> to your house, armed and ready to go to war?
>>  
>> Gary Hunt
>> Outpost of Freedom
>>  
>> From:opf-bounces at oneamericanpatriot.com
>> [mailto:opf-bounces at oneamericanpatriot.com] On Behalf Of Elizabeth 
>> Sutton
>> Sent: Monday, April 14, 2014 9:14 PM
>> To: Outpost of Freedom
>> Subject: Re: [OPF List] Bundy Ranch - false alarm
>>  
>> Not exactly the issue...the interview with Mack is a radio 
>> interview...Ben
> Swann wrote the lead in, but Mack made the statements...so the issue 
> is...when...not if...imho...the feds decide to carry out another 
> phase.  I may  place a call to Senator Reid's office tomorrow to see 
> if he has it scheduled yet...
>> On Monday, April 14, 2014 10:58 PM, wayne andersen 
>> <wriver47 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> Is benswann.com credible ?
>>  
>> On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 9:39 PM, Gary Hunt 
>> <hunt at outpost-of-freedom.com>
> wrote:
>> I received a phone call, about 15 minutes ago, say that Sheriff Mack
> claims that DHS, et al, is returning to the Bundy Ranch. I called the 
> Ranch and Ryan Bundy (about 6:00 PM PDT, Monday, April 14)said that 
> everything is peaceful, and they have seen no activity.
>> They have not put out any alarm, or call for support. They do have 
>> some
> defensive personnel still on hand, and could hold out for additional 
> assistance, if the need arises.
>> They would like to dispel such rumors. If people on the way home turn
> around because of a rumor, then find that it is not true, they will 
> turn around again, and head for home. A couple of rounds of that will 
> get them to ignore a call, if it is legitimate.
>> There are a number of people keeping constant track of the goings-on 
>> in
> Bunkersville. They will put out the call, if the Bundys decide that 
> they need help.
>> Please, don't burn yourself out by responding to rumors without merit.
> Save year energy, and gas, for a requested response, and if that call 
> arises, then come prepared to demonstrate the same support, and 
> willingness, that has so far been demonstrated -- showing the patience 
> and fortitude of the Patriot Community.
>> Gary Hunt
>> Outpost of Freedom
>>  
>> So long as we fight only amongst ourselves, we will never have to 
>> face the
> more dangerous task of fighting against our enemy.
>>  
>>  
>>
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